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PostSubject: MY TEAM FOR WIFI   Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:49 pm

ok well i prett new at wifi but tell me if this is good ty!!


alakazam physcic calm mind recover focus blast

blastoise blizzard hydro pump giga impact attract

garchomp earthquake dragon pulse endure substitue

groudon bulk up slolarbeam fissure fire blast

snorlax slack off body slam rollout bulk up

lucario sword dance drain punch protect cross chop


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PostSubject: Re: MY TEAM FOR WIFI   Thu Feb 12, 2009 11:05 pm

murkage wrote:
ok well i prett new at wifi but tell me if this is good ty!!


alakazam physcic calm mind recover focus blast

Looks good just put Shadow Ball over Recover

blastoise blizzard hydro pump giga impact attract
Take out all the moves. Giga Impact sucks. The free turn can allow your opponent to set up and change the whole game. Use Surf, Rapid Spin, Ice Beam and Toxic maybe.

garchomp earthquake dragon pulse endure substitue

He's Uber lolwut

groudon bulk up slolarbeam fissure fire blast

Another Uber

snorlax slack off body slam rollout bulk up

Walled out completely by ghosts. Curse, EQ Crunch, and Rest holding Chesto Berry would be good.

lucario sword dance drain punch protect cross chop
Take out Protect. If you want a SD set use SD, Close Combat, Extreme Speed/ Bullet Punch, and Crunch.


Overall its good but 2 Ubers. You should post EVs if any. Or if you don't know what Evs are check out here http://chimchar.forumotion.com/pokemon-discussion-f7/how-to-ev-train-t40.htm

Hope I helped




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PostSubject: Re: MY TEAM FOR WIFI   Thu Feb 12, 2009 11:17 pm

should i take out ubers and i dont like lucario idk y but everone says hes an essantial and i have EV rare candys which means i get EV every level like the max EV i could get for that EV its weird and garchomp is uber??? hmmm and i meant to say dragon rush not pulse i wanna make a good team...
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PostSubject: Re: MY TEAM FOR WIFI   Thu Feb 12, 2009 11:56 pm

You shouldn't double post but since your new its not a big deal. Yes Chomp is Uber.


Read that topic i posted. It'll help you understand EVs so you know what they mean.
Hope I helped. Oh yeah and on that edited team you should post EVs.
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PostSubject: Re: MY TEAM FOR WIFI   Fri Feb 13, 2009 6:34 pm

i knwo waht they are
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PostSubject: Re: MY TEAM FOR WIFI   Fri Feb 13, 2009 8:14 pm

Ok then just Ev train your pokémon then.
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PostSubject: Re: MY TEAM FOR WIFI   Fri Feb 13, 2009 8:47 pm

i did.... i have one more question is dusknoir sorry for spelling but is he good
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PostSubject: Re: MY TEAM FOR WIFI   Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:49 pm

Well it depends what set you use.
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PostSubject: Re: MY TEAM FOR WIFI   Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:55 pm

well see i already have a physicic but i want him umm lets say like shadow sneak uhh what are good attacks
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PostSubject: Re: MY TEAM FOR WIFI   Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:11 pm

Shadow Sneak, WoW, T Punch, and Pain Split would be good.
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PostSubject: Re: MY TEAM FOR WIFI   Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:53 pm

Wow? lol sorry what is it
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PostSubject: Re: MY TEAM FOR WIFI   Sat Feb 14, 2009 1:19 am

Will o Wisp. BTW you should look up the moves and Ev spread on smogon. SOrry if this is kind of advertising just trying to help.
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PostSubject: Re: MY TEAM FOR WIFI   Sat Feb 14, 2009 1:47 am

WoW is Pokémon Jargon for Will-0-Wisp, the burning move with 75 accuracy. T Punch (although it should probably be Tpunch, or some sort similar) is Thuderpunch, which is there primarily for Gyarados, who intimidates on the switch-in and sets up easy on Dusknoir with Substitute/Dragon Dance.

Garchomp and Groudon have to leave, or the rest of the team itself. If your team happens to have just one uber in it, it is comsidered a team appropriated the Uber tier meta game, by which some of your OU counterparts are outclassed by other Uber tiers, deeming the team a complete wreck. Taking out Garchomp and Groudon would relegate your team apt for OU battles, which is suggested since the majority of battles that occur here find the OU tiers a foundation for their pool of usable Pokémon. Reason being is that the the Uber tier list is relatively small and not as diverse as the OU tier pool, and most Ubers are difficult to obtain with auspicious IVs and natures.

For Alakazam, I'll propose Substitute over Recover, and Leftovers as the item. Substitute will prevent opposing Pokémon from paralyzing you or putting you to sleep. Phazers/Hazers will still get to you, but Taunt would seem more like a space-hogger on a Calm Mind set than would Subsitute. Leftovers should heal Alakazam nicely. Threats that come in would have to first deal with breaking Zam's Substitute as well, giving Zam a better chance at warding off "weak" counters. Timid Nature is good, and the EV spread could either be Offensively oriented or Defensively oriented. In this case, a Defensive might be better, with a little at least 180 Speed EVs and some SpDef EVs so that Calm Mind has a more dramatic effect.

Lucario is a decent counterpart for Alakzam, but probably isn't the best with Fighting and Ground common Physical moves that Lucario could still suffer from. However, alakazam is resistant to Fighting. Most probably, he'll be getting the Night Slash, Shadow Ball, or Megahorn--all of which Lucario resists. However, Lucario's set is pure crap. Swords Dance is okay, but Drain Punch is lame for anything with such amazing sweeping abilities. Close Combat is 2 times stronger, and 6/5 stronger than Cross Chop. Its also much more accurate. The Defense drops are not that big of a deal for Lucario, since his defenses aren't good--his resistances are really what cover up most of the time. Lucario still gets 2HKOd by CB Ttar Stone Edge, to which he is 4times resistant to. Anyway, the more ideal set would be

Lucario @ Life Orb [Steadfast]
Adamant: 252 Attack / 252 Speed / 4 HP
- Swords Dance
- Close Combat
- ExtremeSpeed
- Crunch/Bullet Punch.

I prefer Crunch, since it comes in handy most of the time and hits all Pokémon for at least neutral damage when combined with STAB Close Combat with the exception of Heracross and Toxicroak. Swords Dance first, then rip. ExtremeSpeed hits almost every pokémon faster than Lucario, dealing a crap load of damage with Swords Dance and Life Orb. About 90% of the time, it will OHKO. Exceptions include BP Speed boosts, Scarved Pokémon with decent bulk, and BP boosted faster Pokémon in Defense. Other than that, Gengar and Aerodactyl are the only problems, since they are immune to / resistant to ExtremeSpeed and can Focus Blast / Earthquake for SuperEffective damage, all respectively. Which is why Bullet Punch is there. There has been a minor shift to the offensive use of Pokémon, due primarily to the flaws of walls (critical hit hax, easy to be set up on/prevent set up with Taunt, etc.)

You're going to want something that can take Ground and Fighting for Lucario. Blastoise isn't that good without his Reflect/Light Screen gimmick (and still, he isn't as great as other Pokémon), and if Snorlax could Slack Off, I'd weigh 5000 lbs. That's not to mention the hilarity I just kick off of from seeing that you gave him Rollout...

oh, and just for the recod. Groudon and Garchomp are Physical Sweepers, not Special Sweepers. Fissure breaks the OHKO Clause, and to me, its against the rules to use Giga Impact or any other move that you have to recharge on. Yes, even Porygon-Z and Slaking shouldn't be using Hyper Beam/Giga Impact. I just laugh at people who use those moves.
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PostSubject: Re: MY TEAM FOR WIFI   Sat Feb 14, 2009 10:56 am

yeah i edited my team but i dont really think garchomp is uber cause dragonnite is not oh well i made a trainer card look at my signature and see my team thanks though you really helped
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PostSubject: Re: MY TEAM FOR WIFI   Sat Feb 14, 2009 10:58 am

sorry for double posting but i gonna take out garchomp should i replace with another dragon such as flygon???? and how do u get dusknoir to learn a egg move i never learned how to do that
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PostSubject: Re: MY TEAM FOR WIFI   Sat Feb 14, 2009 12:18 pm

Flygon isn't a bad choice for a replacement for Garchomp, but is obviously outclassed by Garchomp by far. However, the typing is the same and Flygon gets Roost and Levitate. Otherwise, all of his stats are worse except SpAtk, which is the same as Garchomp's.

You could consider using Dragonite, but Dragonite usage is for other purposes. Dragonite's speed is lacking and loses 1/4th of his HP when coming in on Stealth Rock, where his "defenses" are deteriorated when the argument that he has better defenses is made (which supposedly makes up for his mediocre speed). Neverthelss, Dragonite can Dragon Dance-STAB Outrage on of the highest Attack stats in Ou (and with only steel-types resisting). To say the least, he might come in handy for those ground-Fighting moves I mentioned, but he'd have to be bulky and whatnot. I personally prefer Salamence because of his Intimidate and better Speed, since bulky Flyers are hard to maintain without a good recovery move. And still, my bulky Zapdos has a hard time dealing with stealth Rock.

You'd do Egg moves on Dusknoir the same way you would on any other Pokémon, for the most part.
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PostSubject: Re: MY TEAM FOR WIFI   Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:39 pm

well thank you i see what your saying salamance is more of a fire dragon wouldnt you agree? Dragonnite can learn pretty much any eletric TM in the game and Salamace can do the same with fire so it pretty much comes down to states and if i want eletric or fire. if you think about it alot of ice pokemon are part water so if i choose Dragonite then those wont be a problem but Salamance can use fire which will take out none water ice Pokemon. its a very tough decision both having pros and cons

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PostSubject: Re: MY TEAM FOR WIFI   Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:38 pm

You're going to find Thunderbolt more useful, but Salamence's Dragon-Fire COmbo is only resisted by one Pokémon, which is Heatran. Even though you might be able to score a supereffective hit on Water types, you're still going to have problems with Grass Types, especially with Bulky ones like Celebi.
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PostSubject: Re: MY TEAM FOR WIFI   Sat Feb 21, 2009 6:09 pm

yeah thats waht i was thinkin should i teach dragonnite thunderwave
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PostSubject: Re: MY TEAM FOR WIFI   Sat Feb 21, 2009 6:40 pm

sory if this old but how do u get onee of those cards with the different tranier
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PostSubject: Re: MY TEAM FOR WIFI   Sat Feb 21, 2009 6:58 pm

last stand, you could PM that, not necessary to post. but you get it in http://pokecharms.com/
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PostSubject: Re: MY TEAM FOR WIFI   Sat Feb 21, 2009 11:48 pm

sory and tnx
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